Comments on: On India and racism http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism Blog on cricket Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:58:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: kp http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-253 kp Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:02:04 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-253 Point taken Sir Point taken Sir

]]> By: scorpicity http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-250 scorpicity Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:16:05 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-250 Hi KP and Soulberry, I think both of you are confusing this with the actual incident as such and also the earlier incidents taken place with the Australian team. I whole heartedly agree to both your views on treating those incidents seriously and have reflected upon that on the reasons for the polarization of the cricketing world. I hold the same views which you have expressed. However, you have confused what the article actually talks about. That article was only focusing on the general statements made by various Indian ex-players like Kapil Dev and some of the statements of the board members, media on the argument that Indians are never racist, we have supported SA on the same etc. and it is not in the mentality of the Indian people to well be racist which is false. Please do not confuse this with the actual incidents in cricket. He is merely pointing out areas in Indian society where racism in other forms like caste, religious discrimination exist and therefore these statements from officials to categorically deny the existence of racism in Indian society sounds hollow. I don't think he is rubbishing the harbhajan incident as such but focusing on the popular media and people's sentiment that Indians are never/can be racist. Though I must say that he takes a dig on the incident at the end on national honour which I disagree on. If someone representing India is proven guilty or is unfairly treated, it is definitely a question of national shame and honour. cheers Hi KP and Soulberry,

I think both of you are confusing this with the actual incident as such and also the earlier incidents taken place with the Australian team. I whole heartedly agree to both your views on treating those incidents seriously and have reflected upon that on the reasons for the polarization of the cricketing world. I hold the same views which you have expressed. However, you have confused what the article actually talks about.

That article was only focusing on the general statements made by various Indian ex-players like Kapil Dev and some of the statements of the board members, media on the argument that Indians are never racist, we have supported SA on the same etc. and it is not in the mentality of the Indian people to well be racist which is false. Please do not confuse this with the actual incidents in cricket. He is merely pointing out areas in Indian society where racism in other forms like caste, religious discrimination exist and therefore these statements from officials to categorically deny the existence of racism in Indian society sounds hollow. I don’t think he is rubbishing the harbhajan incident as such but focusing on the popular media and people’s sentiment that Indians are never/can be racist.

Though I must say that he takes a dig on the incident at the end on national honour which I disagree on. If someone representing India is proven guilty or is unfairly treated, it is definitely a question of national shame and honour.
cheers

]]> By: Soulberry http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-246 Soulberry Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:53:11 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-246 I'm sorry Scorpi, but I beg to differ with some aspects of that article. T he point which is never mentioned in such articles is the hype and fuss was on mereley one man's word being heavier against another's. I do not recall national honor coming into it through any official, or ex-cricketer's mouth...unless it came from webworld and sound-byte grabbing cricket fans on news clips. But where I really stumbled was that irrelevant middle-class thingy which had nothing to do with Sydney. I don't buy that convenient line of argument. I’m sorry Scorpi, but I beg to differ with some aspects of that article. T he point which is never mentioned in such articles is the hype and fuss was on mereley one man’s word being heavier against another’s.

I do not recall national honor coming into it through any official, or ex-cricketer’s mouth…unless it came from webworld and sound-byte grabbing cricket fans on news clips.

But where I really stumbled was that irrelevant middle-class thingy which had nothing to do with Sydney. I don’t buy that convenient line of argument.

]]> By: kp http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-245 kp Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:47:43 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-245 Lets Face it....whos the root of all Evils? Australians...they started this sledging and ICC and umpires allowed it why? When u get taste of ur own medicine... where were this people when McGrath called Jausuriya 'Black Monkey"? why no action.... You can label me as an extremist....I dont mind....I didnt forget what happend between sarwan and McGrath in Test where WI Chased? Australians thinks they run the ICC...they can do anything By hook or by crook! I dont care if u sweep it under carpet or not...u have to show ozs...to make them understand.... I am curious to see what happens in ODI when Sreesanth is playing against Symonds Look at symonds...when he provkes people...why isnt he punished.... Lets Face it….whos the root of all Evils?

Australians…they started this sledging and ICC and umpires allowed it why? When u get taste of ur own medicine…

where were this people when McGrath called Jausuriya ‘Black Monkey”? why no action….

You can label me as an extremist….I dont mind….I didnt forget what happend between sarwan and McGrath in Test where WI Chased?

Australians thinks they run the ICC…they can do anything By hook or by crook! I dont care if u sweep it under carpet or not…u have to show ozs…to make them understand….

I am curious to see what happens in ODI when Sreesanth is playing against Symonds

Look at symonds…when he provkes people…why isnt he punished….

]]> By: scorpicity http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-242 scorpicity Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:24:01 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-242 Hey CG.. yeah it was a good win, pretty comprehensive.. on Bhajji's incident as such, am disappointed with the transparency involved in the hearing and no one wants to clarify and therefore am for the case to be scrapped. Similarly, on those totally incompetent umpires, am for dropping them but am strongly against the manner in which they were dropped. Hey CG.. yeah it was a good win, pretty comprehensive.. on Bhajji’s incident as such, am disappointed with the transparency involved in the hearing and no one wants to clarify and therefore am for the case to be scrapped. Similarly, on those totally incompetent umpires, am for dropping them but am strongly against the manner in which they were dropped.

]]> By: scorpicity http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-241 scorpicity Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:17:58 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-241 SP... unfortunately, since both sides ie. Asian and the other half continue to not admit their own mistakes, cover things up and basically sweep things underneath, this polarization of the cricketing world will strongly continue. The sad part of this whole incident is that polarization has strongly engulfed the arena and therefore there will never be a united cricketing management body to run the game. So basically, the ICC has not evolved from the veto days... the power structure changed due to the earlier polarization from the faults of the veto nations now it's the turn of the others... things remain in standstill. SP… unfortunately, since both sides ie. Asian and the other half continue to not admit their own mistakes, cover things up and basically sweep things underneath, this polarization of the cricketing world will strongly continue. The sad part of this whole incident is that polarization has strongly engulfed the arena and therefore there will never be a united cricketing management body to run the game. So basically, the ICC has not evolved from the veto days… the power structure changed due to the earlier polarization from the faults of the veto nations now it’s the turn of the others… things remain in standstill.

]]> By: cricket guru http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-239 cricket guru Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:42:00 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-239 Btw, congrats on the Perth win! Btw, congrats on the Perth win!

]]> By: cricket guru http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-238 cricket guru Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:41:36 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-238 Good that you brought this up. I thought in the euphoria of Perth win, people would completely forget it. I agree, it was plain silly to treat the ban on Bhajji as a slur on national pride. Good that you brought this up. I thought in the euphoria of Perth win, people would completely forget it.

I agree, it was plain silly to treat the ban on Bhajji as a slur on national pride.

]]> By: straight point http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-237 straight point Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:28:39 +0000 http://www.cricketfizz.com/cricketblog/on-india-and-racism#comment-237 rather that being upfront and doing something about it what everybody achieved with the truce is exactly what you have said..."sweeping things under the carpet" rather that being upfront and doing something about it what everybody achieved with the truce is exactly what you have said…”sweeping things under the carpet”

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